This week we interview Catherine Reheis-Boyd, the President of the Western States Petroleum Association. WSPA is a non-profit trade association representing companies in five Western states – California, Arizona, Nevada, Washington, and Oregon. She joins us to discuss the complicated nature of modern energy policy in the age of climate change, and what California can and should do going forward. We discuss rolling blackout, Governor Newsom’s executive orders, fracking, cap, and trade policy, carbon sequestration, climate change, natural gas, and how moving to a zero-emission future will take longer than we think but is possible with a combined effort and a smart, scientific approach.